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Thursday, July 26, 2007

Fascination Review

In the summer of 1996, Susan, Mike, John and I went on a cruise. I spent a lot of time researching the cruise and exchanging information in online forums. After the cruise I wrote a review for one or more of those forums. Again, so it does not get lost, here it is.

My family and I just returned from the June 22 sailing of Carnival’s M/S Fascination. This is a review of that trip. This was my (our) first cruise. My wife and I are in our 40s and we were traveling with our two sons, aged 16 and 13. We chose a cruise over other vacation options since our boys were not interested in a lot of sightseeing. We figured that they could be busy on the ship while we checked out the ports. We chose Carnival over other cruise lines because of the informality, the emphasis on youth activities, the price and the size of the cabins. We chose the Fascination because of the itinerary. We had investigated a European cruise and ruled it out due to cost. At least with the Fascination stopping in Venezuela, we could set foot on another continent.

We wanted two cabins, this we knew. We looked at various combinations and settled on a category 11 and a category 7, together on the Verandah deck. The Fascination (and all of its Fantasy-class sister ships) has 4 main passenger decks, below the public rooms (from the bottom: Riviera, Upper, Main and Empress). Above them, the Atlantic deck (dining, shops, main show lounge), the Promenade deck (casino, bars) and the Lido deck (pool and the restaurant for breakfast and lunch buffets). The Verandah deck is above that with a small number of cabins, more open decking and a smaller pool. Still higher is the Sports deck (spa, exercise room) and the Sun deck (shuffleboard, track). We reserved cabins V10 and V12. V10 is a demi-suite with a small private verandah, V12 is an inside cabin. We paid brochure price for these in exchange for specifying the cabin. Some of the demi-suites have lifeboats in front of their verandahs.

Since we would be flying from Phoenix, Arizona, we chose to fly a day early and stay one night in a hotel. The choices were the Caribe Hilton, the El San Juan and the Sands. The Hilton is at Condado, fairly close to the pier, while the other two are at Isla Verde which is near the airport. We picked the Sands because it was the least expensive and because a tourbook gave me to believe that all rooms were oceanfront. We booked everything (flight, hotel, transfers) through Carnival. We requested late seating for dinner, reasoning that we would want time after the day’s activities before going down to dinner.

I did a lot of research, became fairly obsessed with the whole thing. I read all of the cruise tourbooks that I could find. I recommend, in particular, Fodor’s (which I bought) and Fielding’s (the 96 edition). I have little use for the Frommer’s book. I checked daily with rec.travel.cruises and America Online’s cruise boards. I would like to thank all of the people who contribute to these groups, in particular to the people who answered my questions.

One issue that I spent time on was the Caracas stop. There are three ship-sponsored excursions in Venezuela, all of which are 8 hour trips. One goes into Caracas, one is a 4 wheeler trip into the interior and yet another visits colonial Tovar, a German village. We wanted to go into Caracas, but the thought of participating in a fleet of buses and being herded about was not appealing. Still, we heard horror stories of people being mugged outside the port, being dumped in the jungle by bandito cab drivers, etc. and did not know what to do. Ultimately we lucked into a unique situation where one of my wife’s employees had a relative in Caracas who was a tour guide. Along the way, though we learned that there are companies with whom you can contract a smaller tour, in a van with a few other people. At least one of them has an 800 number that you can call before you go. I did see a booth in the La Guaira pier/terminal where you could arrange such a tour as well.

Another issue was passports. Carnival said that you did not need them. However, since we were not planning the ship’s excursion in Venezuela, I feared a hassle and had the travel agent query the Venezuelan embassy. They said that we would need one. We got them and didn’t need them, although they were handy forms of identification, particularly for our younger son who had no other picture ID.

When the tickets finally arrived, there was a surprise. The ship was to leave on Saturday 6/22 and we had 2 hotel rooms booked for the night of 6/21. I assumed that we would leave early on 6/21. When the tickets arrived we learned that we would leave at 10:50 p.m. on the night of 6/20, change planes in Atlanta at 6 in the morning and arrive in San Juan at roughly 10:30 am on 6/21. It was all on Delta and of course there were no seat assignments. I called our travel agent and asked her to ask the hotel if we could get in early, whether we could get seat assignments, whether we could upgrade to first class with frequent flyer miles, etc. It took over a week and all we got out of her was seats on the Atlanta-San Juan leg and a maybe on getting in the rooms early. This travel agent was the only real negative of the trip. It seems that the agent that did all the legwork for us up front got promoted and our trip was handed off to this other person. My suspicion is that the first one got the commission and the second one had no motivation to help us.

We got to the airport early so that we could get reasonable seats and we were successful. After they started calling rows for boarding they announced that there was an equipment change and that everyone would have to wait through an interminable line to get new boarding passes. Grumble. I rarely have good luck with Delta. It worked out though and the plane was only half full. No food, movie was ‘Just Like Dad’, just awful from what I could see. Tried to sleep, couldn’t, landed in Atlanta on time. The next flight was full to the brim. Breakfast, ‘Mr. Holland’s Opus’, saw it at the theater. Dosed a little bit, landed in San Juan on schedule. Gray Line was there to grab luggage, take us to hotel. The bus stopped at El San Juan first, looked a bit nicer than the Sands turned out to be.

Got out at the Sands, got our rooms, they faced the street, not the ocean. The desk would fix this problem for $40 a room. Didn’t seem worth it. Disappointing though. The Sands was a nice place with beachfront, pool, swim up bar, fake waterfalls, etc. It was a little past its prime but it added to the charm. One curious item was that one of its restaurants was Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse, which is a chain that has two locations in Phoenix. Isla Verde is an area of a few hotels, a lot of high rise apartments. Walking on the street was not real interesting once you go used to the fact that San Juan was full of Wendy’s, Pizza Hut, etc. We did find one interesting (to us) place, an open air streetfront restaurant that was frequented primarily by locals and served pizza. What made it appealing is that it served cubanos, a flat Cuban sandwich which I had only found in South Florida prior to this. We ended up in this place three times and it was quite enjoyable. Back at the hotel, we spent time at the pool, enjoying some tropical drinks. The surf was quite mild here. I am told that there is surfing in Puerto Rico, but not here. So much for the fantasy of renting a boogie board and taking some waves.

There was a supermarket across the street, got some fruit and juice for breakfast. An English language San Juan newspaper was the last I saw of an up to date newspaper for the remainder of the trip. We had to check out at noon, with Gray Line due to pick us up at 2:00. Gave our bags to the bellman, went back to our restaurant for another taste of cubanos. The bus came to take us to the ship. Drove through some very depressing slums, arrived at the ship before 3:00. It was huge, towering over the terminal. Relieved to learn that we did not have to claim our luggage, that it would go straight to the cabins. Pretty hectic in the terminal. Got valid boarding passes, keys and then our picture taken. The entry was up a flight of wooden stairs to the entry on the Riviera deck. From there, forward through the ship to the elevators that would take us to the Verandah deck.

Got to our cabins, some bags already there. The cabins were as expected. The inside cabin (for the boys) was orange in decor. Our cabin was a combination of gray, dark wood/Formica and mirrors. While larger by 25 square feet, it was actually more cramped than the standard cabins. It had a queen-sized bed, a small couch, chair and coffee table, just a little more furniture than it could support. It also had a mini-bar which consisted of an array of glasses of different varieties, and a refrigerator. I was relieved to find the fridge empty, i.e. not full of stuff that they wanted to sell me. The cabinetry also included a TV and VCR. The sign and sail cards were in the cabins. We were met almost immediately by our steward, Jesus, a genial and efficient Dominican who made our stay very enjoyable and was very useful in providing reports of sightings of our kids. I set out to find out what our dinner seating was, to find out about the teen orientation meeting/party and to see if there were videos to check out. This was all disappointing. The seating was noted on the sail and sign card. We had the early seating. I went to the Beverly Hills bar to get it changed, only to find a long line. I went to the Teen Disco to find it closed for renovations. The counselor in the Camp Carnival kids’ room told me that the Diamonds are Forever Disco would be used for most teen activities. She gave me a sheet of teen activities that made me realize that many of the teen activities were during the late dinner seating, so I decided to stay with the early seating. I learned that the VCR was only for playing back your camcorder tapes or in case you had brought any tapes.

The early seating changed the afternoon plans since we had planned on going out to see Old San Juan and to pick up some pops, beer and liquor for the cruise. There was now not enough time. Old San Juan would have to wait for another trip and the supplies could be obtained in St. Thomas. We spent some time exploring the ship, playing Ping-Pong and shuffleboard. My wife and I had a drink at a bar on the Promenade deck. Tonight was informal for dinner. There were three levels of formality for dinner. The first and last nights, given the indeterminate state of one’s baggage, were the most informal. The two formal nights were Monday and Thursday, the other three were in between. Still, there were policies about no shorts, tank tops, etc. Nobody paid any attention to this the first night. This was the first of many hassles with the kids about what we thought that they should wear vs. what everybody else did. When we got to the open seating dinner we were seated at a table for ten with 6 (apparently Puerto Rican) Hispanic teenagers. While they were very polite and did speak some English, we were not who they wanted to talk to. This was the first indication of what became obvious as the cruise progressed. About half of our fellow passengers were Hispanic. I had no problem with this but it did cut down on the number of folks you could talk to. My younger son was not pleased with the menu and worried that he would not find anything that he liked on the dinner menus, but this would change. The meal was fairly good, the service less so. Since it is open seating, the waiter and busboy are not the ones that you would tip…

After dinner, the boys got back in their shorts and headed down to the orientation party in the Diamonds are Forever Disco. About 15 minutes later we strolled by to see the younger one sitting at a table of boys his own age, having a fine time. No sign of the older one. I went back to the cabins to find him there. He had stopped in, found only younger kids and bailed out. He was heading back to see if anything changed. We snooped again about 20 minutes later. The older boy was leaving the Disco in a group of teenagers of mixed gender. The younger one was busily telling the DJ what to play. Success! We would not worry about them having a good time for the rest of the trip. If you are a teenager, or have teenagers, be aware that the orientation party is the key to whole thing. Don’t miss it! It turned out that the Teen Disco being closed was probably a blessing. The facilities that they used were much larger, more accessible to nosy parents and without the video games that would have cost us a small fortune.

This may have been our favorite night on the ship. There was a creditable calypso/reggae band that played primarily in the daytime by the pool. But tonight they were doing a night-time poolside party. Being out in the night air on deck, dancing, drinking, etc. was a lot of fun. Unfortunately there was very little on-deck activity at night during the rest of the cruise. When it came time for the ship to leave San Juan we went out on our private deck. Then we went back to the party. At one point we were dancing and the music changed to something called the Electric Slide, which my wife knew about but I didn’t. I backed off while the revelers did their thing. My wife’s performance was (briefly) captured by the Video Diary folks. Suddenly, in the middle of this song, people started pushing past me. A buffet had opened behind me! I was nearly trampled but gathered my wife and we sampled some food. This was the only easy access to a late night buffet that we were to experience.

Before I go on I should explain that we live in Phoenix where a lot of people come to visit. They typically do day trips to places like Sedona, the Grand Canyon, etc. One of the places that people go is Nogales, a town on the Mexican border. It is a typical border town with tacky gift shops, panhandlers, hustlers, etc. The conventional wisdom here is that you should never go to Nogales. You go through Nogales and drive a 100 miles or so until you reach the real Mexico. What I learned on this cruise is that a cruise is a good way to visit several iterations of Nogales.

I didn’t have real high hopes for St. Thomas. I had visited St. Croix in the mid 70’s and had not been impressed. It was just too American and commercial for my tastes. The people didn’t seem particularly charming or friendly. The plan for St. Thomas was to get off in the morning, do some shopping, and get back on the ship. We had resolved not to try to visit and see everything on this trip, in order to enjoy the ship itself. This seemed like a good place to try that out. The main feature of St. Thomas, one is told, is the shopping. Great bargains, variety, etc. When you leave the ship you enter Havensight Mall, which is a series of buildings housing outlets of the major shops in Charlotte Amalie. The Fascination stops here on Sunday. This means that many stores are not open at all and the ones that are, typically close at 12 or 1. Havensight Mall was pretty dead. My younger son came with us into the mall area, checking a CD store, then went back on the ship. We caught a cab ($2.50 per person) to town. Upon arrival we were immediately accosted by people selling tours and by cab drivers wanting to take us back to the ship. Several of the stores we had hoped to visit, including the Ralph Lauren factory store, were closed on Sunday. We had neglected to measure our dining room table so our idea of buying a tablecloth went away. The prices on jewelry, perfume, Mont Blanc pens, etc., did not excite us. Liquor was cheap. We did find a crystal/china place that had good variety and prices. Throughout our journey we encountered people trying to steer us into shops, pushy tourists, cab drivers trying to take us back to the ship, etc. We bought a china figurine, some souvenir gifts for friends, and a Hard Rock Café St. Thomas tee-shirt. Finding a cab back to the ship was no challenge. After lunch I returned to Havensight Mall, bought some soda pop in a grocery store ($2.99/six pack) and a bottle of Haitian Rum (Barbancourt) in a liquor store. Despite the warnings that all liquor would be confiscated and returned at the end of the cruise, I had no problem getting the rum on the ship.

This was definitely a trip to Nogales. In retrospect, now knowing the disappointing state of shopping opportunities, I would recommend either staying on the ship or doing something that gets you past Charlotte Amalie. I have a basic aversion to ship-sponsored excursions but this might be the place for one. This day was the one instance of one of our kids being bored as well. My younger son found nobody to hang out with this afternoon since so many of his buds were out on excursions with their families. I offered to take him on an excursion in Guadeloupe the next day, however, and he decided to pass. This boredom never returned.

At dinner we were led to a table for 8 by a window. Our table mates were a couple from Atlanta, with their two sons, aged 17 and 9. Carnival had done a good job in matching us up. The four boys became friends throughout the cruise. Our waiter was Valerian, from India, and the busboy was Mauro, from the Philippines. They both did a very good job of taking care of us. Mauro, in particular, was a joy to know. One negative, we immediately inquired about getting a cocktail, asked a couple of times, but had no luck. When 20 minutes had passed I went to the front of the dining room and spoke with the Maitre D. He apologized, and within a minute or so we were met by the guy with the drinks. At each subsequent dinner, he was there immediately. He did not have any sort of sense of humor about this situation, however, and did not crack a smile until the final night, when we insisted on taking his picture. He was Finnish.

Food. The dinners in the dining room were excellent. There were a few things that were not perfect, e.g. the escargot were basic rubber with garlic butter, but most was excellent. The rest of the food on the cruise was not that memorable. The lunch in the Coconut Grove restaurant (or on deck) was the same every day. Burgers, some kind of pasta, mediocre cole slaw and potato salad, a salad bar, soft serve ice cream, iced tea, and that was about it. I would have enjoyed more variety. There was an open seating buffet in the dining rooms for lunch that I did not try, probably should have. Breakfast was the same drill, steam table scrambled eggs, undercooked hash browns, bacon, toast, pastries, juice, coffee. We did do breakfast in the dining room a couple of times and it was much better. The late night buffets were a joke. Interminably long lines for forgettable food. On a couple of occasions my wife sent me out from our cabin for something only to have fallen asleep by the time I got back.

Lines. One must resist the temptation to suggest that the next Fantasy class ship will be called the Regimentation. Most lines could be avoided however. There is absolutely no point in standing in line for dinner when you have an assigned table. Come 10 minutes later and there is no line. I already talked about the late night buffets, not worth the trouble in my estimation. Other lines are encountered in getting into the shows, and getting on and off the ship. The show lines can be dealt with. There are upper and lower entrances and also two instances of the shows. My older son got front row seats at the second seating show by entering (on the upper level) when the first seating was leaving. There always seem to be seats if you are not picky about location. Other than in Puerto Rico, all shore access is from the 3rd deck, which is below the Riviera deck. There is one little area at the base of the forward elevators where the gangway (or access to the tenders in Grenada) is. I was twice caught in a claustrophobic situation in this area, once while waiting for a tender in Grenada and another while getting off the ship in La Guaira. The line from hell was the one getting off the ship in San Juan at the end of the cruise, but I’ll get to that later.

Shows. I did not have high hopes for the shows. I have never been to a show in Las Vegas, and only planned to attend a show or two because they were free and for the experience. We caught a few minutes of the second night show, which consisted of the Cruise Director (John Heald – very good at what he does) putting a group of passengers through some antics. It was pretty good, but not something that we would stay for. We did go to the third night show, after the first formal dinner, which was a revue of Broadway show tunes. It was very professionally done, lots of high-tech stuff, good dancers, etc. The singing was OK, the male lead in particular had a good voice, although he was a double for Lionel Richie which put me off a bit. All in all, though, I am more comfortable at an R.E.M. concert than this sort of thing. We tried the second major show, which had a Hollywood motif, but left in the middle.

Seasickness. This ship moved a LOT. I knew that my wife had a tendency towards seasickness and I had bought her a pair of the wristbands that I had heard about. Unfortunately she couldn’t find them when it came time to pack. On Monday afternoon, after we left Guadeloupe, she started having problems. We were dressing for the first formal dinner and she had to lay down. I got Dramamine from Jesus and by this time the younger son had the problem too. There was the captain’s party in the Palace Lounge with free drinks and hors d’oeuvres prior to dinner. We missed most of it but she felt better towards the end and we went down to it. We had no sooner sat down and got drinks when she observed the curtain on the stage swaying back and forth dramatically. Had to move on. There were several times over the remainder of the cruise when Dramamine was employed. Our cabin location, high in the ship and at the very front, added to the problem. I do not know if this was a typical cruise in terms of the motion.

Port/Starboard. If you have an outside cabin you might be wondering what the optimum side of the ship is in terms of where the ship faces when in port. In San Juan, the starboard side has a slight edge. Neither side is particularly scenic, though. The port side looks at the terminal and beyond it to other ships in port. From our verandah we could see a Cunard ship and one of the Windstar or Star Clipper style ships. The starboard side faced some open water beyond which is the shoreline. The port side wins in St. Thomas, facing the harbor beyond which is Charlotte Amalie, while the starboard side looked at Havensight Mall and some scrub trees. In Guadeloupe the port side faced right into Pointe-a-Pitre. In Grenada we were at anchor and twisted a bit but the starboard side tended to face land. The port side faced the shoreline and green mountains in La Guaira. Again, in Aruba, the port side faced shore. Overall, the port side, which our cabin was on, was the winner. This was biased by the view from the Verandah deck, but the view from the lower decks should be similar.

Pressure to buy: There were a couple of areas where Carnival should lighten up a bit. The single worst thing was the constant pressure to buy drinks while on deck. It was damn near impossible to go for more than a minute or two in a deck chair without being accosted by someone trying to sell you an overpriced cocktail. If you are trying to nap or read a book or do anything else remotely relaxing this is downright irritating. Ironically, there are other times, like in the Cocoanut Grove restaurant for lunch, where you can’t find someone to sell you a drink. If you don’t want iced tea you have to go find someone to sell you a Coke or a beer. Another annoyance is the inevitable guy who DOES approach your lunch table and tries to do an advance sale on wine for your dinner. There was also some heavy-handedness in the sale of excursions. They nearly implied that you would not be allowed to leave the ship in Venezuela if you didn’t purchase an excursion.

On to the remaining ports:

Guadeloupe. This was our favorite port. This was the least like Nogales of the islands anyway (Caracas being in a different category). Guadeloupe relies less on tourism than the other islands, I am told. The people seemed to go on about their business in spite of the large group of passengers ashore. Very little hustling. It was much in the French style, a little like Paris, a little like Marseilles, a little like New Orleans. There was a great open air market about 5 blocks from the pier, with people selling artwork, spices, vegetables, etc. It was the first indication of having entered the third world. And yet, when I was short of cash to buy the painting I liked, I was able to cross the street and use an ATM. As in France, the people seemed pleased at one’s attempt to converse in French. After an initial standoff-ishness, the people were genuinely friendly.

Grenada. This was just plain awful, in my estimation. I had been to Barbados a couple of times and expected a similar experience, given the heritage and location. This was nothing like Barbados. They were surrounding the tenders out in the harbor with rowboats trying to sell conch shells and elicit quarters to dive for. Once ashore there was a barrage of taxi offers. If you got past there you found an uninvited tour guide or six who ultimately wants $40 for his time. A long walk around the bay (the Careenage) and a climb up a hill takes you to a business center with a square containing a market which on the surface looks like the one in Pointe-a-Pitre but sells a lot of tee-shirt junk in addition to spices, etc. Never for more than 60 seconds did I manage not to get approached about something. I did climb a hill to where the police station was and got a nice view of the city. This was an annoying, dirty port. I bought some nice little spice baskets (6 for $10) at a booth near the pier. At a side door of the fire station near the pier there is an immigration office where they were nice enough to stamp my passport on request. This was the shortest stop on the cruise, and it was long enough. Still, if you have never been in such a place, the stop was worth the experience. Just not worth repeating.

Caracas. To me, this was the highlight. This is a major city with over 5 million people. We were a little concerned that our arranged tourguide would not materialize. While the hordes waited in the public rooms of the ship for their prospective excursions to leave, we were down on the third deck waiting for the gangway to open. Most of the people waiting with us were Hispanic and presumably knew more about what they were doing than we did. There were continued warnings over the loudspeakers in the last 24 hours to stick with the ship’s excursions. There was a shuttlebus from the ship to the terminal building. I was apprehensive about this because I did know if we were supposed to wait at the ship for our guide or take the shuttle to the terminal building. As the gangway finally opened, we made our way out and there was somebody with a sign with our names on it. It was indeed the aunt of my wife’s friend. She was immediately apologetic that she did not have the van, that we would hook up with it in Caracas, she had her own car. But because it was a private car she had been able to drive right up to the ship which helped avoid the confusion about where to meet her. We piled into her Toyota and were whisked away. The drive to where the pier building is takes about 10 minutes and then you are out on the streets of La Guaira. La Guaira is a industrial looking port city with a fair amount of evident poverty. There is an historical section but we did not see it. We were soon on the freeway heading over the mountains to Caracas. The drive was quite scenic, green mountains, great views, etc. There were 3 or 4 tunnels along the way. She mentioned that the weekend traffic on this route was intense, with everyone trying to get to the beach. The tunnels were not well ventilated and I got an awful image of what it must be like when traffic backs up in there. Traditionally, gasoline has been ridiculously cheap in Venezuela, and as a result they seem to have a lot of 1960s vintage large American vehicles in service. In the city itself, we headed for the Hilton where she would park her car. From there we got on the Metro, very modern and clean, built by the French. We went then to the Plaza where most tourists are taken. We saw various historic buildings, a Cathedral, the capitol, etc. We could not go in the capitol because they were getting ready for their Independence Day (July 5) celebration. We saw some of fellow cruise passengers being herded about. At this plaza was the one place that we saw vendors selling t-shirts and the like. My wife went into a shoe store and we quickly learned that there were some real bargains to be had in this country. Their devastating inflation worked in our favor. After an hour or so in the Plaza area we were met by the van and went off to a church where the remains of various revolutionary heroes reside. From there we went to a mall, yes we asked to do this, always anxious to see how other people live. The mall had a grocery store where we perused the aisles, bought some Polar beer for the ship and some flour that is used to make arepas, a local delicacy that we would later sample. The flour was a gift for the tourguide’s niece back in Phoenix. Out in the mall, one of my sons bought a CD, a recent Porno for Pyros that worked out to about $8. My wife found a reasonably priced purse (leather goods are an attraction here). I looked at men’s clothing but the prices were pretty normal. Suits looked reasonable but I didn’t have the time or the inclination. By this time it was close to 1 and the stores were closing down. We got back in the van and headed to a restaurant for lunch. The place we went to had various awards on the wall from local publications. It was a tiny bit touristy, we were greeted in English by the proprietor, but most of the folks eating there were local. We had a “typical plate”, that consisted of black beans, shredded beef, rice and fried banana. This was one of the tastiest meals that I have ever had. The folks from the ship were having a banquet lunch at the Hilton about this time. After lunch we drove around for a quite a while, saw the major baseball and soccer stadiums. Baseball is a bigger deal than soccer in Venezuela. In the Copa Mundial they tend to root for Brazil, Italy and whoever is playing Colombia. We went up mountains and looked down on the city, one vantage point was just above the new US Embassy. We drove through a really expensive neighborhood that reminded us of Beverly Hills. We drove into a military compound where we saw teenagers drilling in preparation for the Independence Day activities. While a democracy for some years now, the military and police remain a big presence. Eventually it came time to head back and the drive through the mountains went very quickly. We enjoyed asking 1000 questions about life in Venezuela. Our guide had lived in Mexicali, California for 2 years in the 70s and had many questions about the US. Her daughter had just graduated from high school in Caracas and was leaving in a month or so to spend a year in the Phoenix area, living with relatives, repeating her senior year and honing her English skills. We were very fortunate to have had Maria as our tourguide. Now in a van, we had to be left off at the terminal and take the shuttle back. We said our goodbyes piled into the bus for the trip across the pier area. This was a thoroughly satisfying visit.

Aruba. This place reminds me of Laguna Beach, I’m afraid. One’s reaction to Aruba goes to the heart of what you are looking for. As we looked at it from the ship, my younger son, who had once said that he was most interested in visiting St. Thomas because it was the most American (“I like American, Dad”) had done a 180. Fresh from experiences in Guadeloupe, Grenada and Caracas, he decided that Aruba looked TOO American and he declined to leave the ship. Our tablemates, who had been horrified at Grenada and stayed on the ship in Venezuela, thought that Aruba looked like their kind of place. The next day we saw the ultimate Aruba momento, a T-shirt that said “Dunkin’ Donuts, Aruba, it was worth the trip”. I had signed my older son and I up for a beginners’ SCUBA excursion, our only ship-sponsored venture. The van took us about 5 miles up the coast to the Holiday Inn, that was on a gorgeous stretch of beach lined with glittering hotels. The Hyatt Regency looked like quite a place. We got outfitted with equipment, did a drill in the pool, then boarded a boat which took us maybe ½ mile out, to where there was a the submerged wreckage of a cargo ship. With much trepidation, I went down. Once there, it was wonderful. I hadn’t done this before. The diving was maybe 30 minutes long. The whole excursion was about 3 hours. Once back on shore, you had to find your own way back to the ship. This meant either catching a municipal bus or hanging out for a while and drying off before catching a cab. The cabbies won’t let you in if you are wet. After lunch on the ship my wife and I ventured out into Oranjestaad, the port city. It was clean, ordered, appealing, downright American. I had little use for the place. The prices were outrageous in the shops. We walked around a while and went back to the ship. Bought a Scuba Aruba T-shirt and a local license plate. If what you want out of an island vacation is a place to lie on the beach and drink rum punches this is a good place. If you want history and local culture, though, this is not it. One gets the impression that there was little here before they built all the shops, hotels and casinos. Again, maybe I missed something. Maybe this was a glittering Nogales. I did want to rent a jeep and check the island out on my own, something that got derailed by the SCUBA diving.

Summary of ports: Our favorite places were Guadeloupe and Caracas. If I did this cruise again, I’d probably go to a beach in St. Thomas (or St. John), stay on the ship in Grenada and rent a jeep in Aruba.

Cabin note. We really liked the cabin arrangement. The only thing that we would change is to stay a couple of cabins farther back on the same side. We were directly below the edge of the exercise room which once or twice yielded some excess noise. V16 might just be perfect.

Disembarkation. This is by definition a bad thing. You don’t want it to end, you

have to waste time packing. You have to say goodbye to the people that you met. The first real hassle was a money hassle. I had used the ATM next to the casino with no problem midway through the cruise. When I went to it on Friday to extract my tip money it was not working. I had no money for tips. The purser would be glad to do a cash advance on my credit card for $13 on the first hundred and 10% after that. To get the $210 in tip money that the guidelines suggested, it was going to cost me $24. Fortunately, they would cash a check if you had an AmEx card. I located a check and did so. It cost me two trips through the purser’s line on a day that I would have rather spent by the pool, though. The rest went fairly smoothly, other than the part about getting the kids to pack, etc. You put your bags out in the hallway after 9 PM or so on the night before you get there. Then you and your carry-ons must be out of your cabin by 9 AM. We and our table-mates managed to grab one of the large circular couch thingies in the Palace Lounge and sat there and waited for our deck to be called. As we had hoped, after the folks doing ship-sponsored excursions in Puerto Rico got off, Verandah, along with half of some other deck, was called first. We quickly got down the elevator to the Riviera deck, only to find an awful crush in the elevator area, which led to a hallway that I seriously questioned whether I could go into, that was the length of the ship and solid people and luggage. Somehow, and this was a credit to the intelligence and community spirit of our fellow passengers, we made it up this hallway from hell and got off the ship. What we and others did was consciously create breaks in the line up the passageway so that we didn’t all suffocate. The bad news was that when we finally got to the gangway we realized that other people had been going through the ship on other decks and come down the stairs adjacent to the gangway and were getting off without the long wait. By this time they had started calling other decks so these folks were actually getting off ahead of us. We did get off though, did wave off 1000 porters, did get our bags, did get through customs, did give our bags to Delta and board the bus to the airport. Contrary to the nice speech by John Heald the day before, though, Delta was NOT prepared to do boarding passes there. We had to do that at the airport, and they could only do it for the Atlanta leg, had to do it AGAIN in Atlanta. Still, we made it onto the plane and got home.

Would I do this again? Absolutely. This was probably the only opportunity to cruise with the boys. The next time we go on a cruise it will be by ourselves and I think that I would try one of the more upscale lines. I AM hooked on having a cabin with a verandah. Was I satisfied with Carnival? For the most part, yes. This was pretty much what I signed up for. Without my kids, I might have wanted a quieter, more sophisticated, more genteel crowd, but with them it would have been a disaster.

Wednesday, July 18, 2007

Beach Pictures

I posted some pictures from the beach along with a couple of new Kaelyn pictures on Mike's website.

Sunday, July 15, 2007

Currently Reading (Nature Girl)

It took me a long time to get through the Tim Dorsey book. Maybe I am losing interest in either Serge Storms or reading in general at the moment.

Saturday, July 14, 2007

Beach

I don't know who reads this stuff, probably nobody who doesn't know what is going on anyway, but it is not a generally good idea to announce in a publicly accessible place that you will be vacating your house for a week. So I didn't mention that we were going to the beach for a week. We rented a Chevy Trailblazer to carry all of our stuff, which included my bicycle, two boogie boards, sheets, pillows, towels, etc., and headed to Newport Beach on the morning of Saturday the 30th of June. This would be our 10th stay at the beach, starting in 1987 and going every two years, missing only 2005, when we had spent over a week in the Bay Area for John's graduation. This was the first time that Susan and I had gone by ourselves. We had taken both Mike and John with us the first 6 times, and John had come with us for the 99, 01 and 03 trips. The trip there had become pretty formulaic. Get up early, head west, stop for lunch at In-n-Out Burger at the Ramon Road exit off I-10 near Palm Springs, get gas after lunch, then get back on the road to CA-60 near Beaumont, then CA-91 south at Riverside to CA-55 which eventually stops being freeway and takes you up the Balboa peninsula to where we stay. This would be a little less pressure as the rental company would be open until 5. Most close much earlier and threaten to leave the key in a mailbox or something. The only things that were much different this time is that the area west of Phoenix is growing like crazy and much of what used to be desert is now full of tacky little houses, Wal-Mart superstores and suchwhat. I have no earthly idea why anyone would live there. The other weirdness was that there was construction on the interchange of the Moreno Valley and Riverside Freeways and we lost about 30-40 minutes fighting with exceptionally rude drivers, including the pilot of a Winnebago who suddenly decided that he would enter the space occupied by our vehicle and was very reluctant to back off once I called him on it, although he ultimately did. So we arrive at the beach, get the keys and go to the rental. The garage, sadly was about a foot wider than the SUV we had. I managed to shoehorn it in but ended up not using it much as I scraped the fenders on two different occasions getting in and out. Fortunately Avis did not notice. The place was wonderful. Huge private patio on the boardwalk with umbrella table and chairs, natural gas barbecue and some folding chairs. The house itself was rather small, two bedrooms and one bathroom, but a big living room and kitchen, nicely furnished and very clean. The first week of July is typically the first week of weekly rentals and that can sometimes be a good thing.

We were on the corner of 14th Street and Oceanfront. Across 14th Street is the elementary school, and facing it is a playground. This makes it a fairly busy area, but no obnoxiously so. A block west (conceptually north, towards LA) is 15th Street, where there is a public bath house, the Stuffed Surfer Cafe, the 15th Street Surf Shop and a small convenience store called Fry's Market. Another 6 blocks down, at the 21st St. alignment, is the Newport Pier. 5 of our previous 9 stays had been spent in the range of 28th Street to 35th Street. That area is much busier, but one advantage is easy access to what was formerly a Lucky Store, now an Albertson's, is about two blocks off the beach at 31st Street. Going east from our rental, about 16 blocks, is the Balboa Pier.

We were able to see all of the places in which we previously stayed, with one exception. 1614 W. Oceanfront, just up the street a couple of blocks, had been torn down, along with its neighbor to the east, and replaced by a glass and chrome monstrosity that looked like it might be the mothership for an alien invasion. The others, including the apartment from 1989, which was on the corner by the Surf Shop and the site of the Mark McGwire encounter, were intact, although the '89 apartment and the '87 Balboa shack were no both now longer term rentals and the 95-97 place at 3310 W. Oceanfront was no longer a rental at all.

Many things were the same, most of the businesses like Blackie's, Charlie's Chili, the donut shop, the seashell shop, etc. were still in place. The Burger King was now some off brand equivalent. Surfside Sports, where we used to pump our bicycle tires, had lost their lease (it now cost a dollar at on the other bike rentals).

This was the first time since the early apartments that we could cook and eat on the patio, which was very cool. I rode my bike a lot. The surf was disappointing, though. The area by our rental is prone to rip-tides, it turns out, and the only time I attempted boogie boarding (with John on Thursday) was interrupted by the lifeguard on a bullhorn telling us not to. The plan was to go up to the other side of the pier on Friday but I got a sunburn that more or less killed that idea.

John and Agnieszka came in around 11:30 on Wednesday and stayed the rest of the week. Pat and Suzanne came later in the day, as did Jeff. Wednesday was the 4th of July, which turns the boardwalk into a zoo, populated by drunken 20somethings on bicycles that they should not have been operating. Other than the company, this was my least favorite day at the beach.

It was a good stay, too short as usual, and the sunburn at the end was a bummer, but this was probably the nicest place we have rented (and a little cheaper than the last two). If I have it to do over again I will figure out how to take a smaller vehicle and do something about getting a bike, then just plan a couple of walks up the boardwalk for boogieboarding.

Friday, June 22, 2007

Let's Spend the Night Together

It is December 13, 1981, Sun Devil Stadium. We have some reasonably good seats, have sat through Joe Ely and then George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers. The Rolling Stones are on the stage. The song is "Let Me Go". Mick Jagger climbs down a ladder from the stage and heads into the crowd with a wireless microphone. He is suddenly running down the aisle that we (Bonnie Braun, Susan and myself) are about 6 people over from. In the first shot here you see him standing in the aisle (pink shirt). In the next scene you can see me in the extreme lower left corner (Levi jacket, shades). You can't really see Susan, you can see Bonnie (hooded sweatshirt). Jagger is still visible in the aisle. In the third shot, you can make out the three of us well, but Jagger is no longer visible, although you can tell where he is (as before just behind the guy in the windbreaker and the sunglasses). To find us, start at the upper left hand corner and head diagonally towards the center, we are about halfway to the center, first me, then Susan, then Bonnie. This footage is from the film Let's Spend the Night Together, which I have been trying to get a DVD copy of for years, which Mike bought me for Fathers' Day.

Used Too Often

The following phrases really get on my nerves and are overused by baseball people in general and Diamondbacks TV announcers in particular:
  • grinding
  • the way he goes about his business
  • a guy like INSERT PLAYER NAME
  • ...if you're INSERT PLAYER NAME...
  • ...if you're a INSERT TEAM NAME fan...
  • lights out
  • years young
  • you gotta tip your cap
  • at this level
  • every single day

And weather announcers should never say "gorgeous".

Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Should go alone more often

I didn't think about asking anybody to go to tonight's Tampa Bay game until it was too late. Rather than upgrading, though, I just ate the ticket and enjoyed the elbow room. Like the Boston game, this one had disaster written all over it. The Diamondbacks had gotten shellacked by TB last night, had Doug Davis on the mound tonight and had never beaten the Devil Rays. Ever. The first pitch of the game was a Tampa Bay home run. It was 3-0, 5-1 then 7-1 bad guys. I thought about leaving several times, but the home team snaked their way back into it. Carlos Quentin, who was in a horrid slump and had been benched the night before in favor of Scott Hairston, had a couple of hits, including a home run and 3 RBI. In the 9th, Tony Clark's pinch hit two run homer tied it up. They failed to finish them off in the 9th, though, so I left, just in time to get in the car and hear Chris Young's game winning walkoff home run. It went from down 7-1 to winning 10-8. The game was over four hours long.

Sunday, June 17, 2007

Colors

Mrs. Blandings: Now, Mr. PeDelford, we'll discuss painting.

Mr. PeDelford: Okay.

Mrs. Blandings: I had some samples. Here we are. Now, first, the living room. I want it to be a soft green. Not as blue-green as a robin's egg.

Mr. PeDelford: No.

Mrs. Blandings: But not as yellow-green as daffodil buds. Now, the only sample I could get is a little too yellow. But don't let whoever does it get it too blue.

Mr. PeDelford: No.

Mrs. Blandings: It should be a sort of grayish yellow-green. Now the dining room. I'd like yellow. Not just yellow. A very gay yellow. Something bright and sunshiny. I tell you, if you'll send one of your workmen to the grocer for a pound of their best butter and match that exactly, you can't go wrong. This is the paper we'll use in the hall. It's flowered. But I don't want the ceiling to match any colors of the flowers. There are some little dots in the background. And it's these dots I want you to match. Not the little greenish dot near the hollyhock leaf. But the little bluish dot between the rosebud and the delphinium blossom. Is that clear? Now, the kitchen's to be white. Not a cold, antiseptic, hospital white.

Mr. PeDelford: No.

Mrs. Blandings: A little warmer, but still, not to suggest any other color but white. Now, for the powder room in here, I want you to match this thread. And don't lose it. It's the only spool I have and I had an awful time finding it. As you can see, it's practically an apple red. Somewhere between a healthy Winesap and an unripened Jonathan. Oh, excuse me.

Mr. PeDelford: You got that, Charlie?

Charlie: Red, green, blue, yellow, white.

Musical (!)

This was really dumb but I enjoyed it. Susan's boss gave her tickets to this touring musical at Gammage Center. Ironically, the only other musical that I can recall going to since moving to Arizona was also a 50s thing and also at Gammage (Grease). Most of the songs were Elvis Presley songs but it wasn't about Elvis. Sort of a "Fonzie visits a small town" thing. Some of the performers were pretty good, the plot was nearly non-existent. The one person I had heard of (Susan Anton) was in a minor role. I don't need to do this again any time soon but it was actually fun.

Thursday, June 14, 2007

On the road again


Move to Tempe will ends Motorola's long legacy in Chandler

Edythe Jensen and Luci Scott
The Arizona Republic
Jun. 14, 2007 12:00 AM

Motorola is selling its Chandler facility, its largest in Arizona, and consolidating operations in Tempe, company officials confirmed Wednesday.Most of Motorola's 1,200 Arizona employees work at the 152-acre Chandler site northeast of Price and Queen Creek roads, spokeswoman Kathi Haas said. Cellular network engineering operations done there will move to leased space in Tempe early next year. There have been no official layoff announcements, and Christine Mackay, Chandler economic development specialist, said she was assured by a top Motorola official that no Chandler workers would lose their jobs in the move.

However, Motorola reported to the state Department of Economic Security last month that it intends to lay off 79 employees in Chandler and 46 in Tempe before August. "Those job reductions are part of the 3,500 announced earlier this year and are not associated with the site consolidations," Hass said.Initially surrounded by alfalfa fields and dairies when the company moved to the city in 1985, the Chandler Motorola plant spurred development along the Price Road Corridor and for a while expanded to a second site on Alma School Road, now home to Freescale. The company isn't releasing the asking price for the plant and 152 acres it has up for sale, but Haas said the decision to sell was "real estate asset management." The property is valuable, and Motorola wants the cash, Chandler officials said.Motorola has been pared down by layoffs over the years, from its 20,000-strong workforce in the 1990s. Chandler Councilman Martin Sepulveda said it's a lesson in why cities need economic diversity."Companies like Motorola and Intel have brought us from agriculture to technology, but the semiconductor industry isn't at the top of the food chain anymore," he said. "What's next? It's bioscience, biotechnology."Councilman Matt Orlando is a business development manager for technology firm General Dynamics. He said that several prospective buyers, whom he declined to name, are eyeing the Motorola site and he expects it to sell "within the next few months." Tempe Mayor Hugh Hallman is rolling out the red carpet. "I'm delighted Motorola has had a good experience in Tempe," he said. "We look forward to welcoming the expansion of their plant and operations."

Republic reporter Katie Nelson contributed to this article.
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This will be the 5th place I have worked at since I joined Motorola on June 1, 1998, having worked at:

51st Street/Piedmont (Phoenix/Ahwatukee)
Hayden/McDowell (Scottsdale)
56th Street South of Indian School (Phoenix)
Price/Queen Creeek (Chandler)
and soon Diablo Way (Tempe)

My commute will be cut in half, approximately.

Monday, June 11, 2007

Don't Say a Word

Last night was the final episode of Sopranos. Due to Susan being in SF, I have not watched it yet, will probably watch it on Tuesday night. I am trying to avoid all TV news, radio, internet news, etc. until I have seen it. There was a picture of Tony on the front page of today's Republic. I quickly switched to the Sports section. I may not be able to pull this off.

[Answering the phone] Jerry: If you know what happened in the Mets game don't tell me, I taped it. Hello?

Sunday, June 10, 2007

Let's go Red Sox ... not

The day started out badly. I was to go to game 3 of the Red Sox series with Mike. I originally had tickets for Saturday's game but at some point I realized there there were two problems. First, Susan had gotten plane tickets to go to San Francisco to see John this weekend, second, I got invited to a wedding on Saturday night that I really had to go to. So I traded with Jodi for Sunday's game and asked Mike to go. I had been looking forward to it but there was an email from Mike when I woke up that said that he and his family were sick and he could not make it. He felt bad about it and when I talked to him on the phone he sounded really out of it. I first planned to just go downtown and scalp the tickets then come home and watch on TV but then I looked on the internet and there was a single ticket available that sounded really good, so I bought it online and then scalped my two tickets. When I got there I was pleasantly surprised. I had thought the seat was more or less straight down from where we usually sit, just above the owners' box, but it turned out to be right behind home plate, three rows above the luxury suite that you see on TV behind the plate. I was reluctant to go at all because the Red Sox fans had more or less taken over the stadium and were being loud and obnoxious and their team had won the first two. There were a bunch of these people around me, but actually more (but quieter) Diamondbacks fans. The area that I sat in was dominated by scouts. I think that the bottom few rows are reserved for scouts and that they claim the middle seats first but that the remaining seats are released on game day if not sold. I really wonder what is up with these Red Sox fans. They are all decked out in jerseys that say Ortiz and Papelbon and such what. If they are local, what do with their little costumes? Do they wear them in front of the TV when they watch the Red Sox? Or do they actually travel from Boston to games like this? Do they wear their Schilling jerseys on the plane? Anyway, this was the perfect storm. The game was tied for most of it, first 0-0 and then in the fourth it became 1-0 Boston but quickly 1-1 in the bottom of the same inning. Both Johnson and Dice-K were on top of their games. Finally the Dbacks scored another run in the sixth and it was 2-1 until they scored 3 more in the 8th, primarily on a 2-base 2-run throwing error by the Boston reliever on a Carlos Quentin bunt. Still they chanted Let's go Red Sox like they were at a high school football game right up to the end. This was one of the better games that I have attended. It is too bad that Mike was sick and couldn't make it.

Saturday, June 09, 2007

Arizona Republic gets it right

Yesterday was an embarrassing moment for the media in this country. This young woman, who appears to be famous for nothing else other than being famous (has no apparent talents and not even the good looks that help people like Britney Spears) was yesterday ordered back to jail after conning (or bribing or whatever) the local sheriff into letting her out early after spending just a couple of her 45 days in jail for DUI and related bad doings. The three cable news networks chose to cut away from a press conference containing breaking news about a new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to have wall to wall coverage of this meaningless event. NBC Nightly News had it as its number two story after the Joint Chiefs deal. Today I was pleasantly surprised to look at the front page of the two newspapers that are delivered to my door on Saturdays. Although the New York Times had an article at the bottom left corner of page 1 "Celebrity Justice Cuts Both Ways for Paris Hilton", the Republic had nothing on page 1, not even a mention in the sidebar that points to articles inside. The article that they did run "Screaming Paris Hilton ordered back to LA jail" was on page A26 next to the ad for the Ashley Furniture HomeStore $295 Event.

Wednesday, June 06, 2007

Fun to Boo Barry

For the second night in a row, Barry Bonds was not in the lineup at Chase Field. This time I was there, and I was pleased that he was in dugout instead of on the field. The Dbacks were up 1-0 at the end of 8. In came José Valverde from the bullpen. At this point, instead of hero's welcome with fanfare and excitement, which would be fitting for the guy who is (at least off and on) leading the NL in saves, they have this dumb "guess the attendance" contest on top of the home dugout, which is nothing more than a paid commercial for the Arizona Republic. Some of us try to cheer Valverde on as he makes his entrance but are drowned out by the loudspeaker "Is it A? or is it B? or.." and so on. Then I hear a groundwell of boos. The crowd realizes how tacky this is, I think for a second, but then I realize that in the on deck circle, swinging bats, is the devil himself, the pride of Arizona State University, Barry Bonds. The boos get louder, so do screams of "steroids", "you belong in jail", "you are an embarassment", "criminal", etc. I have to admit that I was amazed just how much fun this was, joining the crowd in its uniform (well not completely, there were some Giants "fans" there but not as many as usual) distaste for this man who has defiled the game. The boos and the taunts continued through his at-bat, followed him to first on his base on balls, and back into the dugout when has was replaced by an actual athlete as a pinch runner. This was a very enjoyable negative experience. The crowd, who could not begin to agree on immigration, global warming, the war in Iraq or whether the U of A winning the NCAA Softball Championship was a good thing or a bad thing, were unanimous on one thing. Barry is bum. And the Diamondbacks won 1-0.

Tuesday, June 05, 2007

Sad but Inevitable

Rockies designate Finley for assignment
Denver, CO (Sports Network) - The Colorado Rockies announced on Tuesday that veteran outfielder Steve Finley has been designated for assignment. The 42-year-old Finley, who signed a minor league deal with Colorado in the offseason, hit just .181 with one home run and two RBI in 43 games this season. The Rockies now have 10 days to trade, release or send Finley outright to the minor leagues. To take Finley's spot on the roster, Colorado purchased the contract of outfielder Sean Barker from Triple-A Colorado Springs. In 45 games this season in the minors, Barker hit .333 with five homers and 30 RBI.
06/05 13:14:44 ET

Saturday, June 02, 2007

Recipes

No, I am not fixing to die over here, just cleaning up my hard drive. I provided this to somebody who was attempting to put together a family recipe book a few years ago. I don't know if anything was ever done with it.

First, here are 3 simple recipes that my mother used a lot when I was growing up. She wrote them out for me when I had my first apartment in
Ann Arbor. I tweaked the punctuation and spelling but left the rest alone. My comments within the recipe are in [brackets] and after the recipe are in italics. Susan copied the cookie recipe from a recipe written out by my mother.

Sloppy Joes

2 lbs. hamburger
salt and pepper
1 medium onion cut fine
2 stalks or pieces of celery cut fine
2 Tablespoon butter
1 cup catsup
1/2 cup [yellow] mustard
2 Tablespoon [cider] vinegar
4 Tablespoon sugar
pinch of cloves

Melt butter, add onion and celery, simmer about 5 minutes. Add hamburger, salt and pepper and simmer until a little brown. Sprinkle a little flour on. Add rest of ingredients. Cook about 15 minutes over low heat, ready to serve.

My mother got this recipe from a neighbor in Livonia, Joyce Botelho. My preference is to lose the cloves. Susan also omitted the vinegar when our boys were growing up, but I prefer it with vinegar. In case it is not obvious, this is served in hamburger buns.

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Macaroni Salad with Tuna

2 cups uncooked macaroni
1 can tuna
1 cup Miracle Whip
1-1/2 cup diced celery
12-14 sliced stuffed olives or more if you like

Cook macaroni in 2 quarts water plus 1 teaspoon salt. Chill macaroni in cold water and drain. Add remaining ingredients.

I usually end up adding a fair amount of salt to this.

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Goulash

Cook 2 cups macaroni
1 lb. Hamburger
1 onion diced
1 can tomatoes large
1-1/2 teaspoon salt, a dash of pepper

Brown hamburger with onions, add tomatoes from can and break or mush them up, add macaroni, then add enough juice [from the can] to make goulash a little soupy, add salt and pepper and cook slowly for 15-20 minutes or longer if so desired. Stir to keep from sticking, add more juice from can if needed.

Again, this ends up needing salt.

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The next two recipes came from my mother but are in my words, not hers, and probably altered a bit since I have been making these at least once a year since the 70’s.

Giblet Gravy

The night before, boil giblets and neck for 5 hours. Done when the meat pulls off the neck bone. Stick the pan with giblets and liquid in the refrigerator overnight, boiling more in the morning if necessary. Don’t lose the liquid.

In the morning, after removing the meat from the neck bones, put giblets and neck meat in the blender with enough of the liquid to cover the meat. This should be about half of the liquid. If it isn’t enough to cover, add water. Cover, put blender on low setting briefly, enough to mix and chop the meat. You should have a muddy, lumpy sort of substance. Put in a bowl, salt and pepper to taste, refrigerate.

After the turkey is cooked, combine the giblet mixture with the turkey drippings. Heat on the stove, add flour and water, simmering. Continue to add flour and or water until consistency is right.

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Stuffing

A couple of days before you cook the turkey, cut white bread into cubes (1 to 1-1/2 cups for each pound of turkey). Put the bread in the roasting pan. Every few hours, turn it.

In the morning, fry 4 medium onions (for a big turkey) in butter, and add it to the bread. Cut up two apples (I use Rome apples, but that is my tradition, not my mother’s) into small pieces and add that. Add some water to the remaining giblet juice. You are going to want enough liquid to make the mixture soggy. Pour liquid over bread. Add 2 Tablespoon of sage. Mix thoroughly with hands. Salt the neck and body cavities of the turkey. Stuff it.

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Tomato and Sauerkraut Juice

I posted this one to sauerkrautrecipes.com

Honolulu 1990

In my continuing effort to bore the crap out of anybody reading this stuff, here is an account of a trip that we took in June of 1990 to Hawaii for my nephew Chris' wedding. In typical fashion I started out in great detail and never finished. This gets you as far as the first night in the Waikiki hotel. I was apparently in love with ellipses at the time.

Wednesday, June 13 Getting ready for an afternoon flight. Took Mandy to the pet motel and gassed up the truck. Decided to take pickup to airport, cramped but better than leaving the van there to get dented or giving a fortune to a cab driver. Had a free parking coupon from Ask Mr. Foster...

Everybody ready to go, four suitcases, two backpacks, Susan's carryon bag, a big straw purse and a camera bag. A bit cumbersome but handleable. The fourth suitcase was necessitated by decision to take: baseball gloves and hats; smashball paddles; frisbee; cd player and cds...

Southwest Airlines to LA. Terminal 1, what a relic. Beers and pops (outside) while waiting for the plane. Festival seating, but they let you on in the order you got there pretty much. Plane not full...

LAX! Got the bags with no hassle, expected to see a phone with the name of our (obscure) rental car company on it. No luck. They weren't listed in the phone book. A menacing looking skycap kept hanging around trying help. Finally I found a phone number on the Ask Mr. Foster itinerary. They will be there in 5 minutes. Go out to the second curb where the sign says (unintelligible)...

We find what appears to be that curb. The nice man directing the mob at that curb asked us what we were waiting for and we told him. He responded that yes, they would stop there. Next thing we see is our van, zooming past to stop about a city block down. We grab up everything and run. I am at the head of the pack with John close behind. He steps off the curb and nearly gets run over. As we close in on the van the S.O.B. takes off again. I continue the chase and finally reach him, probably 1/8th of a mile from our beginning point. I get on and determine that the guy can barely speak English. "I stop there I ticket" He closes the door and starts to leave as Susan tries to board. Mike had fallen down at least once...

Welcome to Los Angeles...

We get to the car rental and get in our Chevy Nova (the Japanese kind). The steering pulls to the right and the wheel goes thumpa-thumpa-thumpa when you move. This outfit was known nationally as Airways Car Rental but was known locally as Pacific. Ask Mr. Foster was responsible but I did ask for a cheap rental and the price was right ($23.50). I understand why they change the name...

The hotel was the Airport Century Inn, midway between LAX and the 405 on Century Boulevard. This was a good deal, $56, clean, with a nice pool, which we didn't use, and a Denny's, which we did...

After an early meal at Denny's we headed out for Anaheim, leaving around 5:15 for a 7:35 game. Making that game on time soon became a question. The 405 was nearly gridlocked. You'd think, with all of their freeways, that getting from the 405 (San Diego Freeway) over to the 5 (Santa Ana Freeway), which is where the Stadium is and which roughly parallels the 405 in this area would be fairly straightforward. It wasn't. Beside from the fact that you thought yourself doing pretty well to be going 15 mph on the damn thing, you really had to take a non-freeway route (Redondo Beach Blvd.) to get over to the road you needed to take to the 5 (91-Artesia Freeway) or go south to the 10 (Harbor Freeway) and then back north to the 91. Neither way seemed to promising, we chose to stay on 405 to the 10 and the ballgame seemed hours away although it was already past 6:00. When we finally got on the 91, we found a diamond lane, determined that we qualified, and cruised for burgers (or rather thumpa-thumpa-thumpaed for them). The big question became whether or not the 5 would be paralyzed like the 405. It wasn't, and we found ourselves in the parking lot at the Big A with plenty of time to spare...

"It never rains in Southern California," right? It's even rumored (not true) that they don't own a tarp at Anaheim Stadium. This night was a weird one. It sprinkled during the early innings. It was so cold that I (who had said that I would be just fine in a tee-shirt) had to buy a long sleeved Angels shirt in the gift shop. The seats were awful. They were what would be called loge seats at ASU, but they were in deep left field just inside of foul territory. For having been purchased in mid April for a game that turned out to be lightly attended, this was pretty bad. I am going to have to figure out how to do this better the next time. The Angels were awful too. They had been hot and the Royals had not. They had their ace, Jim Abbott (the guy with one hand), on the mound. The Royals sent out Mark Gubicza, no slouch himself, but he left after the first inning with some sort of muscle pull. When Abbott finally left he had given up 7 runs and was ultimately responsible for a couple more. He walked in a run at one point. We got the boys some hot chocolate and left after the 7th inning stretch. The final score, which we heard on the radio, was 11-4...

We got to the hotel with no hassle, other than an abortive stop for sodas at an AM-PM Mini Mart on Century Blvd., which was ended by an aggressive pan handler who made me decide to not get out of the car...

We watched David Letterman and went to sleep...

Thursday, June 14 We had thoughts of going to the Griffith Observatory and Planetarium, but it turned out that it didn't open until noon. After breakfast at Denny's we decided to go on the NBC Studio Tour. It wasn't expensive ($20 for the four of us) and was 75 minutes long. So there we were thumpaing north on the 405, not much better in the morning after rush hour...

NBC, as we all know, is in Burbank, a few miles northeast of Universal Studios, on the Ventura Freeway. Susan read the beginning of the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe aloud as we approached. We bought the tickets and were informed of a 40 minute wait prior to our group leaving. I think it would have been a shorter wait if we'd gotten there a few minutes earlier. The tour was great. This is a real studio, not an amusement park like Universal. We saw makeup (Susan recognized some soap opera queen), costume, set construction (we saw the set from Wings, the new sitcom from the makers of Cheers), the WNBC news studio. The best part, of course, was the studio where the Tonight Show is taped. There was also some demonstration stuff, a studio where they pointed cameras at the audience and showed how they did fades, splitscreens, etc. We all got on camera a bunch. Later on they took us in a room where they asked for volunteers. They picked me because I had a blue shirt on. They had me stand in front of a blue background and then superimposed some image on the wall (and my shirt). This is the technique they use for weather reports, etc. Then John got to put on a Superman cape and appear to fly over the Hollywood Hills, swim with dolphins, etc. We all enjoyed this tour a lot and can recommend it...

Back on the freeway, heading for lunch at Venice Beach. Seemed worth a look, anyway. More C.S. Lewis on the way...

Venice is pretty grubby. Lots of tourists. There were some characters as advertised but mostly tourists. Seems like a nice enough beach. Ate hotdogs and later some frozen yoghurt. Found a reasonable comic book store...

We decided to avoid the 405 and drive straight north to the airport. This got us to the airport nearly an hour before we expected. The rental car place decided to only charge us for one day although they had earlier threatened two. I told them about the condition of the car and they seemed real concerned...

We were to meet Pat and Suzanne at the airport. about 6:00. I called him when we got there (5:05) and he hadn't left yet. The plane wasn't to leave until 7:30 so it was boredom time. The kids and Susan read, I walked around a bit. I had (still have as of this writing) to read this software metrics book for work. It's awful. Moved to the Domino's/bar at 6:00 to catch the beginning of the Pistons/Trailblazers game. This was to be the last game but we didn't know that and were hoping for a Portland win so that we could see the final game on Sunday in Honolulu. Pat and Suzanne showed up about 6:20. Not nearly enough time to visit, but so it goes. Pat has stopped drinking even near beer. We boarded about 7:00...

DC-10, two pair of outside seats together. Headphones around, even though the movie was Steel Magnolias, which was likely to entertain only Susan. The kids fell asleep shortly after dinner. We were due in at 10:00, which was 1:00 a.m. LA time. I managed to knock off a chapter in that awful book. Steel Magnolias was awful, and I was the only one to stay awake all of the way through it. (Actually I think I dozed once for about 15 minutes but didn't miss a thing.) We got in, got our bags and rental car with minimal problems considering how much of a madhouse the baggage claim area was. Short hop in an AVIS mini-bus and we were in our brand new (4 miles on the odometer) Olds Calais looking at maps...

It was around 11:00 when we hit Waikiki, which is a very busy place, even at that hour on a Thursday. When we got in our room on the 35th floor of the Outrigger Prince Kuhio, I opened the door to our lanai and saw... the mountains. I had specifically been promised an ocean view. The bellman arrived with our bags and I informed him of the problem. All they could move us to was a room with a king size bed instead of to doubles. They would have to bring in two rollaways. We moved an spent the night with wall to wall bed. The room was very nice with a lot of extra touches like a hairdryer, a stocked refrigerator, a makeup mirror, bathrobes, etc. The top three floors cost $20 extra and came with such amenities along with continental breakfast. I reasoned that it was worth it and I'm glad I did. We caught part of the Johnny Carson show that we had watch them getting ready for many hours earlier and went to sleep...

At this point I should explain the Hawaiian language, or what I understand of it. There are a few words that are used universally. You are familiar with aloha. Another, that we first heard from the flight attendant on the way there, was mahalo, which appears to mean thank you. It's used a whole lot. What I don't know is where it is a thing done for/with tourists or actually used by everyone, i.e. when one Anglo businessman holds the elevator door far another, does the second guy really say mahalo? Another word is lanai, which I used earlier and means balcony. Significant to directions are makai, which means towards the ocean and mauku which means towards the mountains. That was the problem with our room, we were supposed to be makai but were mauku...

Monday, May 28, 2007

Really poor choice

The Diamondbacks were winning 5-1, José Valverde had been warming up, but since the Dbacks scored 2 in the top of the 9th, it was no longer a save situation. Melvin puts him in anyway. I immediately say that this is a bad idea, that he will not be focused, that he will end up giving up runs and ultimately screwing up his confidence. The guy is really fragile, and although he is leading the league in saves, he was riding high last year before he fell apart and got sent down to AAA. Sure enough, he walks the first batter, the second gets a hit. After retiring Philly's big bopper Ryan Howard and the red hot Aaron Rowand, he gives up a home run to the next guy and it is a 5-4 nailbiter. Two baserunners later, Valverde is pulled for Brandon Lyon, who gets the last out. This was all Bob Melvin's fault, he never should have put Valverde in that situation. We can only hope that this doesn't screw up the big tater's psyche.

Friday, May 25, 2007

I'm in Hell

On Tuesday afternoon, a computer system that I am responsible for, one that has 1500 users, started acting strangely. By Wednesday afternoon, you could not log into it at all and the support people decided that the Data Dictionary in the Oracle database that the system uses was corrupted. Then they figured out that they had not been backing the database up. So they devised a process that ended up taking twice as long as they thought it would take to rebuild the database. Meanwhile vice presidents have been yelling at vice presidents about all of this and we are seriously rethinking our relationship with CSC, who maintains our databases. It is now almost 1:00 am on Friday and it is back up and I am doing some testing before declaring victory. Unfortunately one of the tests is taking a loooong time. I am sitting here watching an hourglass wishing that I was sleeping. At least it ends with good news.

Thursday, May 24, 2007

Right here in Arizona (ugh)

I am proud to say that I have never watched a single minute of American Idol. Somewhere along the line in its earlier years I started to feel a little guilty that I was missing something but Mike mentioned that he had tried to watch it once and his impressions confirmed what I had thought about it.

Now I know more about this godawful waste of broadcasting spectrum than I ever cared to know. It is the fault of the Arizona Republic. Somewhere along the line what happened on these reality shows became "news". So and so was cast off the island on Survivors, etc. This has come to a head on American Idol. The winner was chosen last night apparently and I unfortunately know who it is. The winner was an overweight unattractive woman from Glendale with a poorly spelled name. Over the last few weeks the Rep has covered this almost as intensely as they covered the Suns in the NBA Playoffs. There was a special section of the paper one day, a full page picture of her another day with the notation "good luck".

Meanwhile we are spending a billion dollars every day or so on an illegal war, gas costs three bucks a gallon and the polar icecaps are melting. But people want to hear about this silly talent show.

Sunday, May 20, 2007

Cine Capri Committee: From the Inside


Similar to the Frances Barwood piece of a couple of weeks ago, this was written in August of 1997 and is reproduced here so that it won't get lost.

Some months ago, I got interested in the effort to save the Cine Capri Theater. I have gone to the Cine Capri several times in the 18 years that I have lived in Phoenix. It has always reminded me of the places where I saw movies as a child, before the multi-screen megaplexes became the rule. I particularly relish the memory of the first time that we took our two sons to see a film there. I will never forget the looks on their faces when the huge curtains were pulled back, revealing the screen. When I heard that the theater might be torn down and that there was a Mayor's committee being formed to save it, I was very interested in getting involved. I have served on various committees, including a stint as Chairman of the Paradise Valley Village Planning Committee, and I felt that I could lend some expertise to the effort. I was pleased when I received notice from the city that I had been selected. I knew that there had been a large number of applicants.

When I received paperwork on the committee prior to the first meeting I was a little taken aback. There were over 60 people on the committee, including some celebrities like Alice Cooper and Grant Wood. How could a group that large get anything done? The first meeting was somewhat of a circus. Even more people had been added. Most committee members were there, with the exception of Alice and Grant. The Committee Chair was Phoenix City Councilman Craig Tribken, and his co-chairs were KTAR talk show host Pat McMahon and local theater mogul Dan Harkins, who operates the Cine Capri. It became clear quite quickly that this was McMahon's show. Tribken turned the meeting over to him and disappeared until the "last" meeting. The main purposes of this first meeting were to introduce the committee members, to form subcommittees, and to explain the dilemma that lied ahead. Passing the microphone around we each introduced ourselves and explained why we were there. McMahon handled this like one of his shows and a warm fuzzy feeling was had by all. As to the subcommittees, and Tribken did resurface for this part, there were four. There was a research group, a publicity group, a web page group and the "technical subcommittee" which would concentrate on architectural and planning issues. That was the one that I wanted to be on, the one that would do the real work. Tribken then announced who would be on that technical subcommittee and passed out sign-up sheets for the other 3 groups. It was clear from then on that the Mayor's Ad Hoc Committee to Save the Cine Capri was an overpopulated publicity stunt, that the actual work of the committee would be taken care of by a hand-picked group.

I should point out from the beginning that I do not like Grady Gammage, Jr., the attorney for the Gray Family Trust, which owns the property and wants to tear down the theater. I had dealings with him in my days on the PV Committee which I'd rather forget. From that standpoint I was predisposed against the Grays. Had they been represented by Paul Gilbert or even Larry Lazarus it would have more objective. The Grays' position was simple. They owned the property, had every right to tear down the theater if they wanted to, and they wanted to, as they stood to make a lot of money out of the project that they were planning for the parcel. Any proposal that would preserve the theater would lessen the amount of money that they would make. That was their position throughout the process and still is today.

Dan Harkins is a likable fellow. He owns the Harkins Theaters chain and seems to genuinely care about the movies, the theater-going public and the Cine Capri. Pat McMahon spent a lot of time gushing about how wonderful Harkins is and how much better his theaters are than the other guys'. I'm not sure that I agree. I go to the movies once or twice a month and can usually pick between Harkins, AMC and United Artists theaters. The seating, snack offerings, etc., is no better at Harkins theaters than any other. He may have introduced some better seating sound or snacks but the others have clearly caught up. The big Harkins outlet in my area, the Shea 14, is an ill-conceived facility with not enough parking and a 15 minute wait for popcorn. Harkins' position throughout was that he grieved for the loss of Arizona's other big screens and that he wanted this one to stay open, operated, if possible, by him. There was always an uneasy feeling on my part that we, as a City of Phoenix committee, were getting dangerously close to furthering a private enterprise. I eventually worked on the website, what ultimately became www.cinecapri.com. The suggestion was once made by Harkins' people that we put in links to the sites that sell movie tickets. Were we building a site for the committee or building one for Harkins? Harkins owns the Internic registration for cinecapri.com.

The meetings went on monthly for a few months. On one occasion we were unable to achieve a quorum and the point was made that we needed to toss out the Alice Cooper and Grant Wood types who had never attended. It was pretty obvious at these meetings that the Committee itself was getting in the way of things. The technical subcommittee would meet with Gammage and Harkins and come up with some recommendations. When the Committee would have some questions, which is going to happen when a Committee of 70 people meets, it seemed to irritate at least some of the insiders on the technical subcommittee. Lenny Beard, a show biz type who was in the technical group, once complained that the Committee was floundering and that the "Executive Committee" should meet and make decisions. Now, Lenny, there was no executive committee, or if there was it had no legal standing and was in obvious violation of the open meeting laws.

There was very little movement during this period amongst the concerned parties. Gammage rolled out a plan to tear down the theater and rebuild it underground at the site. Most Committee members felt that this would kill the theater and rejected the idea. The research subcommittee sent out a survey to the Committee members asking them to rank from top to bottom the things that they liked about the theater, much like Solomon asking the mother to prioritize her baby's body parts.

We had a deadline from the city and the final meeting was called. A report, written by Tribken, was circulated for approval. The report said essentially:

  • The Cine Capri should be saved
  • A foundation was being formed to carry on the Committee's work. It's Executive Committee (undoubtedly including Lenny Beard) would run the show.
  • Our survey is attached

I for one was outraged at this. What in the hell had I invested my time for? This was all a sham. I tried to at least get language inserted that would take a stand against the underground proposal. It was amended in and then taken back out by Tribken. The procedure at the meeting was confusing enough that the status of that language was not clear at the time a vote was to be taken. Tribken's position was that the Technical Subcommittee's report opposed the underground plan and it would be a "supporting document". Side note: In the 80's there was a massive effort to create the General Plan for the City of Phoenix. The approach taken was to create individual plans for each of the Urban Villages that make up the city. The PV Village Plan, which I was very familiar with, was the product of countless hours of work and laid out a detailed plan for how the area should grow. It was very specific and very detailed. Too much so for the developers. When the first draft of the General Plan was distributed it incorporated all of the Village Plans. The development interests complained that the document was now too large. In the final version, the General Plan was issued bereft of any nouns and verbs and the Village Plans were "supporting documents". The effect is the runaway development that you see in this city. The vague General Plan is often consulted in zoning decisions. The Village Plans never are. Making something a supporting document is the equivalent of throwing it away. End of history lesson. The final vote on this wholly dissatisfying report was umpteen to 3. Two of us opposed the report because it lacked any teeth. A third individual, taking a libertarian tack, believed we had no business telling the developer what to do and opposed the report on that basis.

I left the Council Chambers in thorough disgust. I had taken part in a publicity stunt which consumed countless hours of the time of well-intentioned people and accomplished absolutely nothing.

Since then, things have gone further downhill. The Camelback East Village Planning Committee, not movie buffs it seems, voted unanimously to oppose retaining the theater on the site. David Liebowitz of the Republic, who has recently replaced E.J. Montini as the columnist I most often disagree with (Keven Willey and Joel Nilsson are the good guys), took an editorial stance in favor of tearing it down. Things look pretty grim for the Cine Capri right now. I did read where somebody wanted to move it to downtown Mesa. Big deal, they might as well move it Flagstaff, at least I go there once in a while.

Still, by today's count, 205,990 people have signed petitions to save the place. It would have seemed like the city, along with a group of concerned citizens, could have worked this thing out. Apparently not.

Paul Benjamin, August 24, 1997

Update: The Cine Capri was torn down, a high rise sits on the site. Around this time a radical change to the movie theatre landscape occurred: stadium seating. AMC opened its Esplanade 14 across 24th Street from the Cine Capri site. With the (then) Squaw Peak (now Piestawa) Parkway completed this quickly became our favorite theatre. Non-stadium theatres, even the above-mentioned Shea 14, suffered badly from this. Harkins PV Mall location has closed and never reopened. Harkins opened a stadium outlet at 32nd Street and Bell, AMC countered with one at the new Desert Ridge Marketplace at Tatum and the 101, which then replaced Esplanade 14 as our most visited theatre. Harkins then opened a megaplex at the power center at Scottsdale Road and the 101 and included a large theatre with stadium seating that he dubbed the Cine Capri, using some artifacts rescued before the demolition. We saw one of the Lord of the Rings movies there. It just isn't the same. Last I heard he was thinking about opening another one in Mesa. We moved to Willo so our local theatre is now the AMC Arizona Center 24, with stadium seating. I prefer AMC stadium seating to Harkins' offering because Harkins' seats rock (are movable) which causes uninvited interaction with the people behind me, although we almost always sit in the top row.

Daron Sutton

I don't dislike the guy... yet. One of the most annoying things that goes on is his ridiculous pitcher vs. position player "rivalry" with Mark Grace. The guy was a minor league pitcher for the Class A Boise Hawks (Angels) in 1992 and then left baseball after extended spring training in the Braves' organization in 1993, but you would think he was Don Sutton (his father) to hear the discussions. It is reminiscent of former Diamondbacks announcer Rod Allen (now the TV play by play announcer for the Tigers) and how he used to go on at length about his MLB career, which, if you looked it up, consisted of 50 at bats.

Sutton is still a welcome replacement for Thom Brennaman, but familiarity breeds contempt with these guys.

Am I the only person who can see this?

Daron Sutton (Diamondbacks play by play announcer) to television audience: Here's Scott Hairston, it's good to see him back in the line-up.

Me (to television): No it's not, he's a moron.

Hairston then hits into an inning-ending double play.

Thursday, May 10, 2007

Seems like a simple question

So Tony Blair is stepping down. He has annointed his buddy Gordon Brown to take his place. I cannot for the life of me find any reference to this guy's position on the war in Iraq. It would seem like news articles would address this. Even if he has NO position, that would be news, right?

Sunday, May 06, 2007

The Nightmare is Over

The Diamondbacks finally beat the Mets at Chase Field, ending a 13 game losing streak dating back to 2004. Liván Hernández got the win, Carlos Quentin got a key hit, José Valverde got the save and the final score was 3-1.

Tuesday, May 01, 2007

Las Vegas


We drove to Las Vegas Friday, spent two nights in the Paris hotel, and drove back Sunday. We were there for Mike and Lori's wedding. Neither of us are big Las Vegas fans. Susan and I visited in 1980 when we she was pregnant with Mike. She had not been back. I went back 3 times for conventions and once with John on the way back from Berkeley.

We were concerned about the drive in that we had heard of problems getting through Hoover Dam and we had to get ready for a party in our room and the dinner we were having, as well as getting John and Agnieszka at the airport. We left at about 8:15 but forgot something and had to turn around at 35th Ave and I-10. Cost us about 30 minutes. The drive there was OK, not much traffic, the Joshua Trees were interesting, etc. The security checkpoint for northbound traffic through the dam is 9 miles south of the dam. I expected a bottleneck there and there was none, there were 3 cars ahead of us in line and we were just waved through. The dam itself was a little congested, but not bad. The only driving hassle was the Strip, where we had to travel from Tropicana to the Paris and it took nearly a half hour. We called John, who was just boarding at SFO, and told him to take a cab.

We parked in self-parking and hit the registration desk at about 2:30. We had called from the road and they told us that they had two connecting rooms for us. Checkin time, per the website, was 3:00. The nice lady at registration informed me that that was wrong, checkin was between 4 and 6 and it might be 6 before we got our two rooms. We argued a bit and I settled for two rooms near each other that we could have right away. Then they told us that we could not get a bellman or a cart at self parking and needed to come to the front for valet parking if we wanted help. So we drove around to the front, gave the cars and bags away, walked to the room where we had to call for our bags.

The rooms were very nice, not huge, but big enough that we did not ask to upgrade (which would have cost $45 x 2 nights x 2 rooms). The hotel was fine, actually, other than this checkin time bait and switch deal. The restaurants, both for the arranged meals, and just stopping in for food, were very good. The minestrone was wonderful.

After unpacking, we walked over to the Bellagio. Susan really liked the indoor garden and was impressed with the fancy shops. If we had to go to LV again for something and money was not an issue this might be the first choice as a place to stay.

My siblings stayed in Bally's, which was attached to the hotel by a walkway and was a little cheaper, with allegedly larger rooms but I didn't see one. It was close enough that if you had a function in one hotel you could stay in the other with no major inconvenience.

John and I walked to Bellagio and Caesar's Palace on Saturday morning. Later we walked with John and Agnieszka down to the Venetian. In the afternoon, Susan and I walked with Kaelyn over to Caesar's and walked through the beginnings of the Forum Shops.

Checking out on Sunday was no hassle, I went down about 8:30 and settled up. There was nobody in line. Then just before checkout time we called a bellman. The bags went down, we went to the front and presented claim tickets to a bellman and to the valet desk. A couple of tips later we had a loaded car, which we then deposited in self parking. After lunch we left, found a back way out of the parking structure which totally avoided the Strip and was very efficient. Bought gas on Tropicana and hit the freeway.

This time there was a big backup at the security checkpoint at the dam. And when we got through it there was a backup all the way to the dam. We lost about 30 minutes. The drive home was pretty boring. When we got to town and headed south on the 101 we ended up getting stuck in a detour that sent us west towards LA on I-10, which turned out to be closed between 83rd and 59th Avenues. We got off at something like 107th Ave., went south to Van Buren and took it, often at 25MPH through garden spots like "downtown" Avondale, until we rejoined I-10 at 59th Ave. This cost us another 30 minutes. It would have been worse if we had taken McDowell because I think that is where they were detouring I-10 traffic.

All in all, I just don't get Las Vegas. I know enough about it now to know where I would like to stay, etc., but I just can't imagine going there for anything other than family or work. Just not my kind of place, I guess.